Comments on: Collaborative Distinction http://healthcarecollaboration.com/collaborative-distinction/ Improving Physician-Hospital Relations Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:11:11 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Collaborative Defense http://healthcarecollaboration.com/collaborative-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Collaborative Defense Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:27:09 +0000 http://healthcarecollaboration.com/http:/healthcarecollaboration.com/2008/02/sample-post/#comment-12 [...] For those convinced that there are two distinct camps of surgeons and cognitive physicians, please comment on my post, Collaborative Distinction. [...] [...] For those convinced that there are two distinct camps of surgeons and cognitive physicians, please comment on my post, Collaborative Distinction. [...]

]]> By: Chris Johnson http://healthcarecollaboration.com/collaborative-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Chris Johnson Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:42:18 +0000 http://healthcarecollaboration.com/http:/healthcarecollaboration.com/2008/02/sample-post/#comment-11 I think the notion that Maggie was floating in her blog post was not that surgeons don't think or don't have a cognitive basis to what they do--as you point out, it seems obvious to me that's a false distinction. The issue was more that the historical dominance of procedural specialties of all sorts, but epitomized by surgery, is one of the engines that has driven the cost of medical care in the USA. The really inflammatory stuff was about behaviors and attitudes. I'm an intensivist who did a large chunk of anesthesiology (and deal with many surgeons, general and otherwise, in the ICU), and I have to say, although the majority are cordial and collegial, many behave in ways that would get them in very hot water if they were in my department and answered to my superiors. Yet that never seems to happen. I think the notion that Maggie was floating in her blog post was not that surgeons don’t think or don’t have a cognitive basis to what they do–as you point out, it seems obvious to me that’s a false distinction. The issue was more that the historical dominance of procedural specialties of all sorts, but epitomized by surgery, is one of the engines that has driven the cost of medical care in the USA.

The really inflammatory stuff was about behaviors and attitudes. I’m an intensivist who did a large chunk of anesthesiology (and deal with many surgeons, general and otherwise, in the ICU), and I have to say, although the majority are cordial and collegial, many behave in ways that would get them in very hot water if they were in my department and answered to my superiors. Yet that never seems to happen.

]]> By: Kenneth H. Cohn http://healthcarecollaboration.com/collaborative-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Kenneth H. Cohn Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:18:02 +0000 http://healthcarecollaboration.com/http:/healthcarecollaboration.com/2008/02/sample-post/#comment-10 Thanks Spence for making my readers aware of this free service, maintained by faculty at the University of Utah, that contains more than 1,500 lab tests categorized into disease-related topics. Thanks Spence for making my readers aware of this free service, maintained by faculty at the University of Utah, that contains more than 1,500 lab tests categorized into disease-related topics.

]]> By: Spence http://healthcarecollaboration.com/collaborative-distinction/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Spence Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:54:42 +0000 http://healthcarecollaboration.com/http:/healthcarecollaboration.com/2008/02/sample-post/#comment-9 It's frustrating that people don't understand how much thought goes into a diagnosis and decision in medicine. I work with physicians and I see their efforts and struggles, but it's neat to see how invested they are in their patients well being. I THINK that you and your readership should know about this site: www.arupconsult.com It is a physician-focused lab test selection and interpretation tool to assist in diagnosis at the point of care and help expand the healthcare provider's thought process. I know that there are cognitive, compassionate surgeons out there and I will seek them out just as you will. It’s frustrating that people don’t understand how much thought goes into a diagnosis and decision in medicine. I work with physicians and I see their efforts and struggles, but it’s neat to see how invested they are in their patients well being. I THINK that you and your readership should know about this site: http://www.arupconsult.com
It is a physician-focused lab test selection and interpretation tool to assist in diagnosis at the point of care and help expand the healthcare provider’s thought process.
I know that there are cognitive, compassionate surgeons out there and I will seek them out just as you will.

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